Political movements tend to come in cycles, especially when switching between extremes. The further to the left or right a country or other group heads in one generation, then often the further they'll swing to the opposite in the next few. Germany for instance, was utterly taken over by Nazism, one of the most right-wing ideological movements in all history, in the 1930s but following WW2 the Germans have basically turned into near-Pacifists now, as if they're trying to make up for their history by being as progressive as possible today. In any democracy this pattern should be evident as well. No matter how successful a government, people's attitudes eventually change and the political tides sweep the other way.
Technological change comes hand in hand with this process. Modern systems such as capitalism and representative democracy were hardly possible before the invention of the printing press. How can you have elections, or stock markets or a currency when 99% of the population can't read or write? Many people these days wonder why authoritarian systems like monarchies and theocracies dominated human society for so long. Why were people so complacent about such an undemocratic system? Didn't they want to rise up and let their voices be heard? Well the answer is that it's simply very difficult to harness people power with medieval technology. Most people rarely travelled more than a few kilometres beyond the village where they were born. Famines and plagues would sweep through a population and kill off a significant portion of it every few years or decades at best. Giving everyone the vote in 1500 AD would be, to put it harshly, akin to giving six year olds the vote today. The results could have been disastrous and led to a much less efficient and versatile system of government then simply having a small, connected royal court make decisions, despite the flaws and corruption inherent to that order. Once large portions of the population began to be educated, it was the perfect breeding ground for a new wave of ideas.
The hyper religious institutions that dominated Europe up until the 17th century saw the rising tide of modernism sweep aside their dominance with the coming of the enlightenment and later movements from about the 1770s onwards. Imperialism and nationalism, tied in with religion more often than not, were particularly strong movements in the 18th and 19th centuries. Atrocities from the conquest of Tenochtitlan to the Boer War were often fundamentally justified on the basis that the Europeans, being a 'superior' civilization to all others in the world, could basically do whatever they pleased regardless of how many millions died as a result. Of course while the wiping out of the American Indians and Australian aborigines was somewhat inevitable, many later imperialist atrocities certainly were not. The millions slaughtered in the Belgian Congo or who died of manmade famines in British India were innocent victims of an unnecessarily harsh system based heavily on racism. It's no wonder that anti-colonialism became so widespread as the 20th century progressed.
No description of the 20th century would be complete without looking in detail at Communism. Modern conservatives often use the atrocities committed under communist regimes as a political football to attack their progressive opponents, branding any mildly left-wing policies as anti-business and inflating their significance greatly until much of the public is convinced that another 'Cultural Revolution' is imminent. An excellent example is the way Republicans in the US have branded Democrat's recent attempts to reform healthcare as trying to import 'radical socialist' ideas to America. This is so far removed from the reality that such attacks should be treated with scorn, yet a great number of Americans have fallen for such propaganda. One wonders why the Democrats don't retaliate with mirroring accusations. If fining people for not buying health insurance is just a stone's throw from the Holodomor, then isn't helping large corporations crush the union movement a modern Night of the Long Knives?
Generations of peasants and young revolutionaries in Russia grew increasingly discontented with the rule of the Russian royal family as the 19th century went on. Unlike in western Europe where fledging democratic systems allowed the people's voices to be heard as the power of royalty faded, Russia remained an absolute monarchy right up until the 1917 revolution. The First World War of course, split wide open the cracks in an already ailing system. The Tsar sent millions of young men to pointlessly fight and die, ill-equipped and ill-led, on the eastern front. Such conditions were the perfect breeding ground for left-wing ideals to spread. Men in the trenches on all fronts began to feel greater solidarity with the poor, wretched souls just across No Man's Land than with their own upper-class officers sitting comfortably in their headquarters tens of miles behind the front.
In understanding the difference between left and right-wing ideologies, the simplest description is to simply ask whether a policy encourages maximising either cooperation or competition. The left believes in the former. It seeks an end to prejudices such as racism and sexism, champions democracy, equal opportunity, the welfare state and as far as possible pacifism. The right believes in the latter, championing free markets, ethical egoism, self-reliance and a sympathy for hierarchical government systems.
Just as tens of millions of people were killed by right-wing ideological ideas in the 18th and 19th centuries, the opposite occurred in the 20th as well. Stalin, through manmade famines or purges, killed some 20 million people between the 1920s and the 1950s. Mao in China arguably killed a lot more. Regimes such as the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and the still existing North Korean regime caused millions more deaths, deliberately or at least unnecessarily. The total death toll due to Communism in the 20th century is probably upwards of 50 million. However it is worth noting that even this enormous figure is well under half of the 200 odd million deaths due to wars and genocides between 1900 and 2000. The World Wars, caused of course by right-wing nationalism or fascism coming to power in Europe and Japan, killed around a hundred million people between them. Colonial conquests were still ongoing early in the century, by the British in South Africa, the Belgians in the Congo, the Germans in Tanzania and Namibia and the Americans in the Philippines. Anti-colonial wars later swept through many of the same countries and caused millions more deaths. No matter how you balance the numbers, the Communists killed far fewer people than the right-wing regimes they competed with during the 20th century.
Nearly all modern western countries do not, despite what some may think, lean heavily towards the left or the right politically. They are a mix of both. They have a democratic voting system overseeing a regulated free market alongside a generous welfare state. Political power is not greatly concentrated in any institution, be it left or right wing, and this makes large scale genocides and fundamental structural problems in society rare. The greatest threat to the prosperity of such nations is not terrorism or climate change, it is their own ideological extremes becoming mainstream and suddenly finding themselves in a position to greatly reform society at their whim. Such processes, once they have begun, tend to gain momentum as they progress and as such can be very hard to stop, let alone reverse. This can be seen historically with such events as the French Revolution in the 1780s, the October Revolution in 1917 and Hitler's coming to power in 1933. Bloody turmoil of one form or another commonly follows.
This little history lesson brings us to today's topic. It concerns a growing movement which most people are only just starting to wake up to the existence of, namely the far right-wing philosophy that has so firmly taken power over many conservatives in the US and increasingly elsewhere lately, that of 'Objectivism'. Just as Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto in the 1840s as a critique of 19th century capitalism, Ayn Rand, a women born in Russia who in her youth lived through the chaos of the Russian revolution, wrote a series of novels in the 1940s and '50s criticising 20th century Communism. Chief among them are the fiction books 'The Fountainhead' and 'Atlas Shrugged'. Her philosophy champions individualism, ethical egoism and flatly rejects any notion that collectivised action is ever worthwhile.
Just as Marx's ideas took decades to permeate through the social consciousness and several generations before serious political movements and governments began to rely on them, Objectivism has been festering for quite a while on the American political scene. Republicans have for the better part of a century been more wary of increasing government power than Democrats, but over the last thirty years or so, notably since the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 on a platform proclaiming that 'government is the problem, not the solution', this wariness has turned into outright hostility. In just a few short years the implementation of many facets of this newfound ideological movement has severely impaired the American economy. Clinton's surplus when he left office in 2000 quickly disappeared in the face of the Bush tax cuts and the War on Terror. Financial deregulation contributed to the severity of the 2008 financial crisis, and the election of Barack Obama did little to stem the flow of events due to Republican obstructionism in congress. Only for 14 weeks did the Democrats have a filibuster proof majority in the senate, during which they managed to slip through a greatly watered down healthcare reform bill and, well, not much else.
Regardless of who wins the 2012 presidential election (and it's still looking likely to be Obama) it's inevitable that a Republican will once again win the Whitehouse before long. Whether it happens this year or in 2016 or even 2020, the political winds will eventually shift back, and it seems likely that Obama's presidency will have only halted the march of Objectivism temporarily, not reversed it's course, and of course this phenomenon is not unique to America. Conservatives in many countries, from Margaret Thatcher in Britain to Tony Abbott (currently leader of the opposition here in Australia) are increasingly taking their cues from their big brothers across the pond. Conservative parties in many western governments face much the same electoral challenges. Chief among these, and this may be the main driver of their dramatic ongoing shift to the right, is a demographic one. Conservative voters tend to be older, whiter, and less educated than the general population. These are the exact groups which are being increasingly marginalised as university education becomes more common, and the population grows younger and more multicultural due to immigration from overseas. The specifics of this shift may differ, Latinos for instance are now the largest minority group in America, while in Australia it's Asians and in many Europeans countries Muslims and Africans, but the underlying reality is the same. A similarly unwelcome shift has occurred in an economic sense. Most western countries have a rapidly ballooning welfare state, looking after their growing populations of elderly as medical technology has improved, and the chronically unemployed as their jobs have headed overseas because of cheap third world labour.
This chain of events bears some remarkable similarities to the earliest incarnations of socialism and communism a century or so ago. Increasingly sick of right-wing disasters such as the First World War, Imperialist conquests and growing inequality, the downtrodden 'working class' overthrew the 'bourgeois' and sought to impose their strict worldview on society and then spread it globally. The opposite now appears to be happening. Fed up with the perceived dangers of a growing welfare state, a progressive taxation system, not to mention secularism and multiculturalism, the Objectivists along the far right seek to dismantle all forms of 'big government' and replace it with, well what exactly? Just how bad could things get?
Some 30,000 people already die every year in the US because they lack health insurance, and a similar number die of firearm related deaths. Both phenomenon are almost entirely preventable, as evidenced by the fact that every single other developed country in the world has long since introduced universal healthcare and such a system has, put simply, worked wonders, being vastly more efficient then one where private options do not have to compete with a public one. The US, once one of the world's most liveable countries, has plunged to 49th in life expectancy. Firearm related deaths are 5-10 times the average among western countries, as is the incarceration rate. 2.5 million people are now in jail in the United States. Almost one in a hundred. More than half of them are there having committed no violent crimes. About a quarter of the total because of mere drug offenses. It's right-wing social engineering to an extent not historically seen in decades.
The next Republican president, unless the situation changes quite dramatically, would be constrained into a very narrow ideological straitjacket to satisfy his Randian base. Further tax cuts would cause the deficit to balloon further without noticeably stimulating the economy, as has been the case under Regan and Bush. The influence of big corporations would continue to increase, the wealth gap would continue to skyrocket, military spending could not be allowed to decrease from the dazzling highs it reached following the massive overseas deployments involved in the war on terror, vote-rigging in elections, already common, could become the norm, and any foreign governments thinking of defying US business interests overseas would be playing a very dangerous game. Hugo Chavez, the democratically elected left-wing president of Venezuela (yet labelled a tyrant by conservatives) might be targeted by the Republicans as the next target for an American-led invasion. Sounds implausible? Americans have been persuaded to enter into far more pointless and disastrous wars, such as Vietnam and Iraq. And what would give the Americans the right to carry out such brutal actions? It's the old European excuse. We consider ourselves superior to the rest of the world, so that gives us the right to do as we please. Sound familiar?
America under Objectivism could follow a roughly similar path to Russia once Communism had taken hold. Shunned yet feared by the international community, opposed by western democratic governments and third world countries alike. Given their history of interfering in the internal affairs of other nations, it's hardly likely that the Americans would hesitate to try and export their ideology overseas. Already right-leaning countries like Japan and Britain might be quick to adopt it, through coercion or not. America's vast military might, including a navy more powerful than the rest of the world's combined, would give real backbone to such movements, just as Communism spread to a multitude of countries after the Soviet Union's colossal victory in the Second World War. Judging by American actions during the cold war, left-leaning populist governments worldwide should be ever more wary in future of US-backed coups.
Whereas ordinary right-wing governments are usually content to simply ignore the plight of the poor and weak in society, a common feature of Objectivist ranting is to take the fight to the 'takers' in society and end their exploitation of the 'makers'. And no, that is not the old communist rhetoric of the bourgeois living off the blood and sweat of the working class, but completely the other way round. In the objectivist worldview, prosperity comes not from the spending of consumers or the hard work of labourers, but from the leadership of the wealthy elite. I hate to break Godwin's rule so easily, but doesn't such dire anti-collectivist rhetoric mirror the message of the Nazi party in Germany above all others? The idea that a new holocaust could take place in a modern western country may sound absurd, but indeed stranger things have happened. Europe at the start of 1914 had no idea that within a year millions of it's finest young men would have died in a terrible slaughter the likes of which civilization had never seen. Similarly, many impartial observers in 1900 thought of Germany as among the most prosperous and enlightened societies in the world, yet within 40 years it was committing genocide on an unprecedented scale. One mustn't forget that even as late as 1939 Hitler did not intend to physically wipe out the Jews and other 'untermenschen', but merely to deport them and destroy their influence over the rest of society. Things escalated from there.
Should the modern 'untermenschen' in America, and perhaps other societies, be worried? Who does the Tea Bagger crowd hate the most? Homosexuals are surely on the list, just as they were in Europe for many centuries and in Nazi Germany in particular. Immigrants, from Latinos to Muslims, are most definitely up there as well. Scientists, environmentalists, unions, atheists and the poor have to round out the most despised groups in Bible Belt America. The hatred felt by many conservative Americans for such groups is readily visible. Polls show for instance that racism in America, despite protests to the contrary, is still alive and well. More than 40% of Mississippi Republicans still do not believe that interracial marriage should even be legal. This is a society where as recently as a generation ago, black people had to sit at the back of the bus. Such prejudice dies hard.
Of course none of this scenario would be plausible if it weren't for the western world's current economic woes. Even when running a budget deficit of over $1 trillion a year, unemployment in America has been stuck over 8% for over three years, and underemployment, perhaps a more useful figure, is closer to 15%. More than half of all Americans now live off some form of welfare. Societies stuck in such doldrums for long can turn into absolute powder kegs, as the aftermath of the Great Depression showed. Many Americans seem to sense that widespread social unrest across the country may be imminent. There are now 90 guns per 100 people across America. By comparison the average among western countries is only 10-20 and the second highest rate in the world is found in war-torn Yemen, and is still only 50 guns per 100 people. The Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street protests across the country since 2009 may be only just the beginning.
How was Communism defeated? By better example. It is somewhat ironic that Communist revolts began to occur just as worker's rights were starting to be taken more seriously in many countries. Though of course a lot of the progress made by labour movements in the western world no doubt owed it's success to fears that a full-blown Communist revolt could take place if their demands were not met. By the 1980s it was realised, even in die-hard Communist circles, that a mix of socialism and capitalism produced better results than just one or the other. It could take generations before far-right Objectivists learn the same lesson. This is true regardless of whether they remain on the fringes of society or fully progress to the mainstream, though the latter is unfortunately looking more likely with every passing year.
History shows that the status quo in any society can often unravel with frightening speed. America's future may proceed without great disruption. But if we're unlucky, can it really be denied that such an Objectivist revolution could occur within the next few years or decades, and plunge much of the world into chaos for generations as happened after Russia fell to the Communists in 1917? Only time will tell. The 18th, 19th and 20th centuries were all far bloodier than the preceding time periods. Why should the 21st century be the one to break the trend?
Um...I wasn't sure if I wanted to comment here, since this is the internet and I have found it is usually impossible for others to debate something as emotionally-charged as politics in a civil and respectful manner on said medium. But I do otherwise enjoy this blog, and I'm commenting on the off-chance that it could become less...lacking in rational thought when it comes to political matters. The reason I couldn't enjoy this particular post is that I have a low tolerance for stupidity, whether it comes from the "right" or from the "left", and, while unfortunate, this particular post does seem to exhibit a great deal of "leftist propaganda", which can only be bought into only if one either doesn't do a whole lot of objective research or simply refuses to think beyond what they were taught growing up (assuming, of course, that the "one" in question has grown up in a westernised liberal democracy). In other words, it exhibits a great deal of "leftist stupidity." Note that there is also a such thing as "rightist stupidity", but, as you can imagine, that is a non-issue on this blog.
ReplyDeleteThe first problem is that this post seems to assume that every single person who disagrees with the author's political views is somehow inherently stupid or inherently evil. In actuality, economics, ethics, ideologies, and politics are comprehensively far more complicated than can be captured in a single political ideology's propaganda. As such, intelligent and well-meaning people can think through the world's problems and come up with radically different solutions.
ReplyDeleteFor example, the "fining poor people" health care problem in the USA actually stems from the government's partial subsidisation of the health care system in the first place via Medicaid. If you know anything about economics, you should probably know that the price of goods can be set by the sellers for as long as 1) buyers are still willing to pay for the product, 2) the prices offered by competitors is comparative and not substantially lower, and 3) the seller is able to make a profit after the cost of manufacturing, raw material, transportation, and labour. If there is a guaranteed buyer who doesn't care about price, then sellers are able to raise the prices substantially to maximise their own profit. This is what happened in the health care industry to make it so expensive in the USA. As government itself became a guaranteed buyer via Medicaid, everyone involved in the upper ranks of the health care industry (including doctors) realised, directly or indirectly, that they could raise their own salaries if they charged the government more for the services offered. Over the course of time, this resulted in the ridiculously high cost of health care we see today, which resulted in doctors (with bloated salaries by that point) and health care companies being unpaid for their efforts, which resulted in them lobbying the government to mandate health care insurance. If you do research into what American health care actually looked like before the implementation of Medicaid, this transformation, and the causes thereof, become readily apparent. There used to be such things as "charity hospitals", which largely do not exist today, having been unable to keep up with the rising costs of practising medicine, which were rising for the reasons listed above.
Now, since you're a leftist, I suppose you might point to the health care systems of Norway, Britain, or Canada as examples of successful universalisation. However, upon looking at the facts that argument unravels quickly. Britain's health care is objectively listed as being of the worst quality in the developed world. Canada's public health care produces long wait times and is sufficiently subpar for health care workers to be caught on camera suggesting to potential patients that it's probably better to get private insurance anyway (which, in Canada, costs substantially more). This private insurance, of course, has to be paid on top of the massive taxes the government levies for the sake of upholding the inefficient public health care. Norway, like other "universal health care" nations in Europe, are transitioning into privately-funded health care because the public-funded option was becoming unsustainable economically.
ReplyDeleteI could go more into the perils of left-centred economic models, but I'll pause there unless this develops into an actual rational discussion.
Now, let's assume that both sides of the economic debate (right and left) are well-meaning and are aware of the facts. I don't think this is the case in reality, but let's assume for the sake of thought experiment that it is. The current adherents of the left could look at the fact that the current system (incidentally built up by previous adherents of the left) penalises the poor while rewarding the corruptly wealthy, and decide that something needs to be done. Adherents to the right can look at the current state of various historically leftist countries, and the historical track record of leftist economies, and conclude that a leftist economic model would lead the nation to ruin. Rightists too might lament the penalisation of the poor, but they would argue that the problem is that the system itself lends itself to corruption, and that it penalises entrepreneurial enterprises, keeping many otherwise would-be-productive poor people trapped in economic cages and dependent on the welfare system; and thus, they would argue that the system itself needs to be changed, not simply added onto in the name of "doing something."
Social issues are similarly complex. Just for the record, conservatives do not "tend to be older, whiter, and less educated than the general population." Those morons are just the ones that the left-leaning media likes to highlight in order to paint their opponents in a negative light. The greatest proportion of conservatives are actually educated and under forty, with a particularly large spike rising among the university student demographic. At least, that's the way it is in the USA. I haven't sufficiently researched any other country to know whether this trend is universal in the Anglosphere, but the sparse research that I have done elsewhere seems to suggest that it more or less is. The only problem for the current establishment "conservatives" in the government, however, is that the educated conservatives tend to be far less willing to buy into established party ideologies. But that's another matter.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, social issues are also very complex. For instance, while one cannot deny that homosexuals are being persecuted in many western nations, if one looks at the facts, the alternative that is being suggested by the leftist establishment in most (at least Anglosphere) countries is, essentially, that there should be a sort of reverse-persecution against the straight. This is not a solution.
"In understanding the difference between left and right-wing ideologies, the simplest description is to simply ask whether a policy encourages maximising either cooperation or competition. The left believes in the former. It seeks an end to prejudices such as racism and sexism, champions democracy, equal opportunity, the welfare state and as far as possible pacifism. The right believes in the latter, championing free markets, ethical egoism, self-reliance and a sympathy for hierarchical government systems."
As for this doozy of a lazy paragraph, far from the left promoting cooperation, in Britain and the USA at least, the left is the side that is attempting to foment class warfare and promote sectarianism along economic, ethnic, religious, and sexual lines. Now, I'm not saying that the right is doing anything particularly better (in fact, the entirety of the world seems to be on the rocks), but it is ludicrous to suggest that the left is composed of apparent saints.
See, racism is alive and well in America everywhere except for perhaps the Pacific Northwest, and maybe Colorado. This is including both "red" states (right), and "blue" states (left). Some states are more passive-aggressive and sly about their racism (i.e. California & New York), while others are much louder (like that Mississippi you mentioned, as well as places like Texas).
Now, I'm not promoting that the right is better than the left, only pointing out that the left is just as horrible and that it is inadvisable for one to be deluded into thinking that it's some sort of Utopian philosophy only held down by the shackles of the right.
ReplyDeleteBefore I drop off, I'll just add that Nazism was actually a far-left philosophical movement, if anything, and was actually called the "National Socialist" party for that reason. It had similar economic philosophies as communism did (both stemmed from the common root of Marxism), albeit in a somewhat more mild strain, and during the Nazis' rule, Germany nationalised most of its major industries in much the same vein as "leftist" governments did in other liberal democracies all across the world, but particularly in Europe and Canada. The only reason Nazism is known as "far-right" is because left-leaning elites didn't want to be associated with said murderous philosophy, and thus worked to change the narrative, albeit successfully.
For comparison, a true "far-right" society would actually be more like Hong Kong or Singapore, where government interference (though the PRC is trying to stop this for Hong Kong) is minimal. Granted, those places are terrible as well for a variety of reasons, and the "ideal" society is likely somewhere in-between the left and the right (maybe like Switzerland?, although Switzerland has its problems too).
Sorry I took a while to reply, I didn't notice someone had commented.
ReplyDeleteRepublican voters (which I'll assume generally translates into 'conservative' voters) do lean towards being whiter, older and less educated.
http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/23/a-closer-look-at-the-parties-in-2012/
The Republican Party now has a 12-point advantage over Democrats among white voters'
23% of Republican voters are over 65, compared to 19% of Democrats, 13% are under 30, compared to 17% of Democrats
25% of post-college graduates are declared Republicans, compared to 39% who are declared Democrats
The stats don't lie...
The United States, as of 2013, ranks 51st in life expectancy and 51st lowest in infant mortality.
Deletehttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html
https://www.cia.gov/library//publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html
Australia (where I live) has had universal healthcare for 40-odd years, we are 10th in life expectancy and 35th in infant mortality.
While I'm prepared to consider the argument that America's overly expensive, yet still terribly inefficient, healthcare system might partly be a result of poor government policies, the fact that nearly every other western country is healthier yet spends less on healthcare overall is a major stumbling block for those opposing universal healthcare (honestly I don't think I've ever seen anyone jump it). Every other major western country has universal healthcare, often for decades now. About 45% of healthcare spending in the US is done via the government (mostly Medicare, which only applies to people over 65). In Australia the figures is closer to 70%, and is 80 or 90% is some European countries.
Even Singapore, might I add, has a universal healthcare system. Although the situation appears somewhat complicated -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Singapore
You could say its partly 'left-wing' -
'Singapore has a non-modified universal healthcare system where the government ensures affordability of healthcare within the public health system, largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies and price controls.'
and partly 'right-wing' -
'A key principle of Singapore's national health scheme is that no medical service is provided free of charge, regardless of the level of subsidy, even within the public healthcare system. This mechanism is intended to reduce the overutilisation of healthcare services, a phenomenon often seen in fully subsidised universal health insurance systems.'
Even if it can be done badly, universal healthcare can be done well, I'd say its definitely worth a shot.
As for the left being the ones who attempt to 'foment class warfare' I reject that accusation entirely. If you look at history, populist 'left-wing' movements and uprisings are almost always reactions to genuine oppression. There's very few good examples of leftists being the perpetrators in historical conflicts rather than the victims. Even looking at the Soviet Union, Communist China and other 20th century communist regimes. Just ask yourself this simple question -
Delete'How many communist revolts have ever occurred in countries that were not already either dictatorships, or exploited colonies ruled by an Imperial power?'
I'm not sure there are any. The Russian revolutionaries overthrew the Tsar, Mao overthrew the Nationalists and various other warlords allied to them, Ho Chi Minh overthrew the French and later their American allies, even Fidel Castro overthrew a US-backed dictator named Fulgencio Batista.
Communist revolts pretty much never happen for no reason. Any society that is just and fair, can consider itself safe from a communist uprising. 'Class warfare' and other conflicts along those lines are, I'd maintain, almost always waged by the left only in self-defence.
By the way, don't get me wrong, I appreciate your comments. While I may disagree with much of what you said, you seem more intelligent and polite than 95% of the people I've seen on the internet. Thanks for the feedback.
DeleteOh hey! You responded! And quite the answer too. Great. I suppose this could be the beginning of an intelligent dialogue. :) Sorry if I responded late. I kind of assumed you just ignored the comments, and just happened to check up on this post again on a whim.
DeleteI'm Sam, btw. I posted the "Ananymous" comments above.
There is a difference between "Republican" and "Conservative", despite what the media might try to say. What those statistics don't show is that there are many people who are young (i.e. 20s) in the United States who would vote conservative if there was an actual conservative party in the USA. See, in a truly conservative government, there would have been no bank bailouts, no "too big to fail", and no unending wars in the Middle East getting nowhere quickly. In Anglosphere traditions, conservatism primarily would include the championing individual rights, with the inherent belief that each individual is free to make their own choices and prosper from their wise decisions, so as long as they endure the consequences of their own poor decisions.
Now, you said this:
ReplyDelete"In understanding the difference between left and right-wing ideologies, the simplest description is to simply ask whether a policy encourages maximising either cooperation or competition. The left believes in the former. It seeks an end to prejudices such as racism and sexism, champions democracy, equal opportunity, the welfare state and as far as possible pacifism. The right believes in the latter, championing free markets, ethical egoism, self-reliance and a sympathy for hierarchical government systems."
To be fair, in reading it again I realise it might not have been as completely off the mark as I first thought, and that my earlier assessment of “stupidity” may have been hasty and reactionary. So for that, I just want to apologise real quick and admit that. There are still a few things that seem a bit off about it though, as in, there still seems to be a double standard. When describing the left, you seem to champion the leftist ideology at its first inception (i.e. pure ideology), rather than the current state of leftist affairs in Britain/USA, hence, you describe it as “maximising cooperation.” Conversely, while describing the right, you look at what it’s become rather than how it began. To be fair, “free markets” & “self-reliance” are actually things that conservatism does champion, and you did say that you think competition is healthy. “Ethical egoism” and “sympathy for hierarchical government systems” however, are not. Those last two might be things that the current Republican party in the USA and the current Conservative party in Britain champion, but those are deviations from conservatism rather than the norm.
I just want to touch on that for a second, simply because there’s no good segue into it later. “Sympathy for hierarchical government systems” is negated simply because the conservative groups that are arising as a rebuttal to the so-called conservative parties in the UK/USA are clamouring for decentralisation and the right of each person to live their own lives without legislation telling them what to do – the exact opposite of hierarchical sympathies. The “ethical egoism” – okay, to be honest, this one’s a bit unclear as to whether you mean that each individual has the right to choose their own morality or if you mean that conservative ethics are based on selfishness. If it’s the former, then yes, conservatism does promote that. If it’s the latter, I just want to point out that the whole argument conservatives have against the welfare state is not that it’s wrong to help poor people or the less fortunate, but rather that the government does a terrible job at it and that taking care of the less fortunate should be done more efficiently. I will also add the caveat that ideally speaking, though no else besides myself is arguing this as far as I know, it’s better to form a society that takes care of the disadvantaged by building that system from the bottom-up, because that results in more permanent change. I’ll try to touch on that last bit later, though since it’s kind of tangential I might not get a chance to do so.
For the record, I’m not conservative. As I’ve said before, “In actuality, economics, ethics, ideologies, and politics are comprehensively far more complicated than can be captured in a single political ideology's propaganda. As such, intelligent and well-meaning people can think through the world's problems and come up with radically different solutions.” I look at how Labour began in the UK, and can appreciate how when it did, it was indeed about fighting against injustice and corruption. However, that’s not what the Labour party there is today, not by a long shot. And Democrats…well, Democrats have never actually been a party on the side of good, despite how efficient its PR may be. Now, that is not to say that “Democrats are evil” or anything like that. What I’m describing is primarily party leadership, from the presidency down. I’ll touch on the Democrats in a bit.
ReplyDeleteNow, if you’re going to describe the “conservative” (i.e. Not Conservative) ideologies based on what they’ve become rather than how they began, you have to apply the same principle to the left. You say the left “seeks an end to prejudices such as racism and sexism.” In the UK, whether you agree/disagree with her, there has been such a thing from the conservative party as a “woman prime minister”. Labour, on the other hand, as much as it clamours about women’s rights and such, don’t seem particularly inclined to trust one to lead, and has been described as a “boys’ club” in which women are given token positions but always under the overall leadership of a man (to be fair, I do believe that had women featured more prominently in politics when Labour began, this would probably not be the case). In the USA, Democrats may say they believe in gender equality, but have no qualms about promoting and backing the likes of Anthony Weiner, the likes of whom are far from uncommon, whose actions are indicative of an attitude that views women not as equals, but as prizes. Another recent example is the scandals of Bill Clinton, which, when they occurred, the leftist pundits were quick to excuse his actions and attempt to gloss over them when they would have been in cacophonic outrage had the same thing happened with a Republican. The Democrat party is also rather alarmingly casual in its assertion that any black person who doesn’t vote Democrat is a “traitor to his race”, and are “the same as animals.” You say the left champions democracy, but in both the USA and the UK, the current Labour/Democrat parties are the ones who historically, at least in the last 50 years or so, step over the voters if they vote in a way that disagrees with the party policies, the most dramatic example occurring during the 1860s when the Democrats began the American Civil War in response to Abraham Lincoln being voted into office. To be fair, now the Conservatives in the UK and the Republicans in the USA are doing the same thing, but as I’ve said before, they’re not really “conservative” any more. You say the left promotes equal opportunity, but nearly every single policy that’s been aimed at “equalisation” in recent years has resulted in the poor becoming more dependent on the government and a system becoming more corrupt and bloated as a result of inefficient but un-killable programmes. But in order to truly promote equal opportunity, one needs to empower those who are less advantaged in life and help them to see a possibility of a truly better life for themselves, not make them more dependent. That touches on the “self-reliance” bit of conservatism, but I digress. And at any rate, currently no major party does the whole “empower those who are less advantaged’ bit. Now, you also said that the left champions pacifism, but the UK fought the Iraq War under Blair. The USA fought Vietnam under Kennedy/LBJ, and Obama during his administration has started bombing the Middle East via drones en masse (including Pakistan, a supposed ally of the USA – and when I say “en masse”, I mean that he heavily increased the number of drones that are attacking from any that Bush had been using), continued to fight Iraq/Afghanistan, moved troops to Australia in a naked move to prepare for a war with China (though no one’s actually saying that, of course), went to war with Libya, and is heavily leaning towards warring in Syria, if he hasn’t already done that. You say that the left promotes cooperation, to which I just say: look at what happened in Detroit.
ReplyDeleteSee, all this together, doesn’t seem to suggest “cooperation”, but rather “competition of the worst kind”, in which the “right kind of people” can have favourable terms in a sort of strange nepotism (though obviously not necessarily along family lines). I can see why you might say what you did, if you’re looking at this purely from history sans the last 50 years or so, but if it was ever true, it doesn’t seem to be anywhere near true today.
ReplyDeleteAlthough, to be fair, this is just talking primarily about the party leaderships, and not necessarily the non-politician peoples who identify with the left.
Now, I mention these things like this, because you point out history in your rebuttal rather than the politics of today, whereas (though I probably should have clarified) I was talking primarily about the politics of today, hence why I make the accusation that the current Democrats in the USA and the current Labour in the UK seem to be the ones “fomenting class warfare” as I look at the rhetoric they’re putting forth. To be fair, I don’t know about Australia’s Labour, as I haven’t had a chance to sit down and examine what politics in Australia are like. This is just about the leftist leaders in those two particular countries of the UK and USA. The leftist leaders there have said in no uncertain terms that the problems in their various countries are the fault of the wealthy and successful, with the implication being that it’s just because such people are wealthy/successful, and that anyone who disagrees with Democrat/Labour policies are doing so out of a malicious mentality against the poor/minorities. It sounds quite a bit like they’re trying to pit the disadvantaged against the fortunate, which is exactly what class warfare is. Now, if they’d said something like “fault of the people who got wealthy by being corrupt”, then that’d be a decent conversation. But the current propaganda is asserting that it’s the fault of anyone who is wealthy or successful, regardless of integrity and occupation.
Anyways, if we’re going to look at history, we also have to look at the history of conservatives. I won’t go into too much detail right now, since there is so much else that you’ve said that I want to respond to, and the purpose of this is just to perhaps point out some things you haven’t perhaps thought of. In the UK, it was the Tories with William Wilberforce that began the process that would eventually lead to the abolition of slavery, by making the slave trade illegal (I will add the caveat that William Pitt described himself as an Independent Whig and it is only later historians that classify him as a Tory, whereas Wilberforce himself was Independent – either way, they would likely both be classified as “Tory” today, Pitt for obvious reasons and Wilberforce because of the nature of his faith). In the USA, it was the Republican Party that championed the abolition of slavery under Lincoln (although Lincoln himself was primarily more concerned about keeping the nation together) against the Democrats who wanted to keep their slaves under the guise of “state rights.” Kennedy/LBJ are remembered as being the American presidents who oversaw the Civil Rights Acts, but what history books neglect to mention is that they only did so because of intense pressure from the Republican party. Conversely, Democrat legislators have consistently been in favour of stepping over other people’s rights to make their own party feel better. Kennedy himself, for instance, as a Democrat Senator, was very much against equal rights for blacks and other minorities. It was naked slavery in the 19th century, and then segregation in the 20th (remember, all those “racist” states were still heavily Democrat during the 60s-70s), and in the 21st century, the party has adopted a paternalistic, myopic view of the world in which only they are right and have the right to spout hate at other people while other people are not allowed to spout hate back at them. This one blog post goes into that last point in a bit more in detail (mind you, it’s only one post, and won’t have all the details), if you’re interested:
ReplyDeletehttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100229359/now-right-wingers-are-supposed-to-hate-the-entire-planet/
Now, going to the Nazi Party and Imperial Japan. Just because Nazi Germany hated Communists doesn’t mean that it wasn’t leftist in and of itself. And true, no one seems to describe the Japanese as “left”, but that’s probably because people actually use the “Hitler” card too often on others and the Nazi Party features more primarily in the limelight. You seem to say Nazi Germany/Imperial Japan/Fascist Italy/etc. were remarkably similar to each other, but if you take a look, you can see that you’d also have to include the Soviet Union, Maoist China, and Pol Pot in Cambodia, among others, in that same group. The reason I describe the Nazi Party (and I would also put Imperial Japan in the same category) as “Socialist”, is because Socialism’s definition is:
ReplyDelete“A theory or system of social organisation that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole rather than in individuals”
This means that while Communism is a very extreme form of socialism, it is by no means the only sort of socialism. In addition, hating an extreme form of one’s own ideology doesn’t negate one’s subscribing to a less extreme form of the same ideology. For instance, many Muslims say that they hate Jihadism, but that doesn’t make them any less Muslim. In the same vein, Muslims are often persecuted in the Middle East for criticising the notion that religion should be state-run, which can be analogous to the leftist thinkers being persecuted by the Nazi Party. But persecuting moderate Muslims doesn’t make the Jihadists any less Muslim either.
All of the above nations had tried to have centralised, planned, collectivist economies in very much a socialist bent (now, you seem to say that the Nazis, and I’m guessing Imperial Japan, only did so because of a goal of conquering the world – I’ll touch on this in a bit). The Nazi Party’s justification, for example, for nationalising certain key industries was that it would make Germany into a “greater” society, the Third Reich. All of the above incarcerated and persecuted political dissidents (true, Communists didn’t tend to incarcerate Communists – they just incarcerated and tortured people in favour of such things as democracy freedom of religion, freedom of speech, among other things) as well as other people, and all of them committed genocide to varying degrees (Maoist China’s genocides are a little bit more difficult to learn about since people don’t tend to know as much about China and Asia in general during the 20th century, but the research is now available). As you probably know, in Japan’s case, the descendants of their victims still harbour a great deal of animosity against them.
ReplyDeleteAll this occurred because at some point, the leaders in each of these nations had decided that some people are better than other people, whether that be because of belief, race, or gender (For instance, the Nazis and the Japanese had blatant human breeding/sex programmes against the will of the women involved), and that they themselves as leaders obviously know best. In almost every case, people were persecuted in consideration of all three factors.
And the same kind of mentality flourished in at least the Democrat Party of the USA in the west during the same time as Hitler and Tojo.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html
If you look at the years, you’ll notice that the racist experimentation began under FDR’s reign.
Having said that, Nazi Germany, contrary to popular belief, actually had a centralised, planned economy in favour of CIVILIAN goods, because Hitler was arrogant and believed Nazi Germany was superior enough as a people as to not have to mobilise for war. Germany didn’t go into full wartime mobilisation until much later on in the war, when it was too late, and if they had done it sooner, the war itself might’ve looked radically different, as the Germans have shown themselves to be quite capable in militarisation during WWI. What Nazi Germany accomplished in the way of conquest during WWII though was primarily attained through a mix of luck and complete ineptitude of their opponents, despite the complete stupidity of Hitler himself. This civilian focus would suggest that the goal of the Nazis wasn’t to take over the world, but rather to make Germany into their version of Utopia.
ReplyDeleteNow, you seem to say that the evidence that the Nazis were planning to take over the world lies in the alliances they made prior to the war, but you have to remember that there was such a thing as WWI and France being a complete wanker against the Germans in WWI’s aftermath, and that these “alliances” were more like “mutual protection pacts” and “non-aggression treaties”, rather than “military alliances” to attack mutual enemies together. This is the reason why Japan never invaded the Soviet Union when the latter was struggling against Germany and its European allies, despite Hitler’s vehement “encouragement.” In the same vein, Germany didn’t have to declare war on the United States when Japan attacked it. Hitler declared war on the USA, partially in the hope that Japan would return the favour by invading the Soviet Union. True, Germany and Italy began cooperating more closely once WWII began, but that was only because Italy saw a weakened France and tried to capitalise on that weakness (though, as you probably know, it failed horribly and became the war equivalent of comedic relief), and then Germany trying desperately not to be left more or less alone in fighting nearly everybody else (Romania/Bulgaria gave support, but they never made that large of a difference in the western front). And as you probably know, Spain never participated in WWII on the Axis side.
As for communist uprisings against dictatorial powers, well of course. Dictatorships and oppression clash with the inherent cry for freedom and dignity in the human soul, and as such any revolution is going to be in response to such things. But the thing to note is that two wrongs don’t make a right. Every single place, almost without exception (I only say “almost” because I don’t know the elaborate history of every single country in the world, and I might have missed one or two communist countries that actually succeeded in their goals without breaking down horribly) that had such a communist uprising quickly became dictatorships or oligarchies themselves as the “Champions of the Proletariat” got a taste of power and became unwilling to let go. And that’s the same problem that leftist politicians have in our democratic societies. Even if we assume that they went into the job hoping to change the world for the better, they seem to have abandoned such notions in favour of grabs for power. And of course, as I’ve touched on before, “right-wing” politicians have gone much in the same way.
ReplyDeleteNow, before I go on, I would like to say that I don’t think socialism is bad in and of itself, so as long as it’s done completely voluntarily on the part of ALL participants. The problems associated with socialism only arise when one group of socialist-leaning thinkers attempts to impose it by force upon a people who don’t have a say (i.e. Communist Dictatorships/Oligarchies). I do realise that that is tangential. I just wanted to say it. :b
Now, healthcare. Since the last time I commented, I did learn, incidentally, of all the different universal healthcare systems in the world that do work. Most of these, like Singapore, seem to be a mix of private and public options, in an arrangement that seems to work very well. As such, if such a universal healthcare option was what was on the table in the USA, I doubt that there would be such a fuss about it, or at the very least, there can be a more honest debate about the advantages and disadvantages. But, that’s not the option that’s being offered.
ReplyDeleteNow, on that, I should probably clarify. The problems in American Healthcare that I described arise because the government chooses to subsidise INSURANCE COMPANIES. Not the hospitals. Not the medical workers. Not the patients. The insurance companies. And these insurance companies drive up the prices accordingly since they know the government subsidises them regardless of quality and cost-effectiveness. And the option of “Universal Healthcare” that Obama and the Democrats are offering is not an option that has proved itself to be effective in any shape or form, but rather an option of: “subsidise the insurance companies more.” Your Australian option might or might not work in the USA, but sure, it could be worth a try. The one that’s being offered in the USA, however, isn’t even close to being the same one.
So no, I don’t think it’s a good idea to give that a try.
Anyways, I look forward to your response, mate. :)
Again, sorry for the late reply, I really need to figure out some way of being notified whenever someone comments on one of my posts...
ReplyDeleteAt the very least, I appreciate talking to someone who is actually educated on these issues. You just don't get that enough on the internet. Honestly, it makes me realize I'd probably prefer a competent center-right government to an incompetent center-left one.
A few things.
About Australian politics. Our first female Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, was elected in 2010 and was from the Labour Party. In the current Labour government, 11 women have now been appointed ministers, almost half of the total ministry and a new record for a Federal government.
Having said that, the Deputy Leader of the Liberal opposition is currently a woman named Julie Bishop. Also, the first aboriginal member of the federal house of representatives was elected in 2010 by the Liberal party, and they also elected the youngest ever federal parliamentarian as well. It is true that the Labour party has slightly more federal parliamentarians who are women, however the coalition counters this by pointing out Labor has a stated 40% quota for new candidates that must be women, which the Liberals deride as unnecessary affirmative action.
This illustrates two things, firstly, that when it comes to equality, whether it is based on gender, race, or even age, both of Australia's major parties are (or at least want to be seen) as progressive on the issue.
Secondly, and more broadly, it ties into the arguments I've been making about the differences between left-wing and right-wing. There's a reason I've been making historical comparisons and comparing governments in entirely different countries, rather than political parties in contemporary western democracies. In Australia, the Liberal and Labor parties are in many ways just about identical, and much the same I think is true of Britain and America's major parties (though America in particular I think has some larger differences).
This has been well illustrated by Australia's current election campaign (we have an election on September 7th, it looks like Labour will lose government after 6 years in power). As a voter I really struggle to point to policy differences between the main parties. They both support denying boat people asylum, are big on middle class welfare (the Liberals actually have a more generous paid-parental leave scheme for instance) and are hesitant to act on climate change or support gay marriage.
The point I'm making is that most major western democracies are devoutly centrist. A post on my other blog that I wrote about this topic, tracking the development of capitalism and socialism as the 20th century has gone on, you might like to read -
http://dealingwithnihilism.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/socialism-and-capitalism-in-modern-world.html